Nephi tries to convince people to believe in God and be saved by his grace. I was unaware that the church newsroom had doctrinal tidbits in there (thanks CV75 for pointing in that direction) and as I was browsing I came upon the entry for Grace. If the real Nephi of 2 Nephi 25:23 does not “stand up” in the hearts and minds of Latter-day Saints, then we are going to continue to suffer from the same unacknowledged exegetical problem that has plagued us for more than a generation, damaged the otherwise sturdy soteriological bridge between the Book of Mormon and the New Testament, and constructed an unnecessary and foolish barrier between us and many non-Mormon … I explained how I enjoy giving away 12th President Spencer Kimball’s book to Latter-day Saints walking to events sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including General Conference sessions, temple open house events, and BYU football games. 2 Nephi 2. 366-367). Nephi explains how in 2 Nephi 25-26. After all, the Bible teaches that there is nothing a person can do to earn God’s favor, no matter how much effort is exerted. 25:232 Nephi 25:23 would be that we are ultimately saved by grace apart from whatever we manage to do. (2 Nephi 25:23, 26) There is no other way to be saved than through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. After we have done all that we can do, after we have denied ourselves of ungodliness and worldly lusts, then is the grace of God sufficient for us; then we are sanctified in Christ and eventually made perfect in Christ (see 2 Nephi 25:23; Moroni 10:32) (Joseph Fielding McConkie and Robert L. Millet, Doctrinal Commentary on the Book of Mormon 2:258). In addition to his overview of the subject, the sermon he linked talks extensively about the verse, and the LDS understanding of grace, works, and power of God. Perhaps as much as praying for mercy, we should pray for time and opportunity to work and strive and overcome. for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do’ (2 Nephi 25:23). 2 Nephi 25:2 Nephi admits that he has avoided teaching his people many things about the life among the Jews in Jerusalem – because of the wicked lifestyle of that culture. 1 And now, Jacob, I speak unto you: Thou art my a firstborn in the days of my tribulation in the wilderness. The Millenial day, then, becomes a day of song and praise to the great Jehovah-he who gave the law-he who would come and dwell in the midst of his people. Before citing 2 Nephi 25:23, Lee explained, “But all of these blessings are ours on one condition, and this is spoken of by Nephi” (Conference Reports, April 1956, p. 111). Robinson wrote: LDS commentators are agreed that the word after in this passage is used as a preposition of separation rather than of time. At first glance this passage seems to agree with 2 Nephi 25:23, but one of the basic principles of biblical hermeneutics (the interpretation of scripture) is that scripture within the Bible (and in LDS theology and scriptures, if it is true) cannot contradict itself. And behold, in thy childhood thou hast suffered afflictions and much sorrow, because of the rudeness of thy brethren. Consider the other citations where Lee referenced this verse: “‘For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.’ (2 Nephi 25:23.) Taken at face value, the idea that believers are saved by grace “in spite of all we can do” seems to be biblical. That [is] the pure doctrine of the scriptures” (Harold  B. Lee, “Viewpoint of a Giant,” Summer School Devotional Address, Department of Seminaries and Institutes of Religion, Brigham Young University, July 18, 1968. According to Nephi, what do we need in order to understand the words of Isaiah? 2 Nephi 31:5-12. Cited in The Teachings of Harold B. Lee, pp. The reason we can say that is that God Himself does not change--He isn't wishy, washy. This is a classic statement of how grace applies to us. 2 Nephi 25:23 in Literary and Rhetorical Context Daniel O. McClellan For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. @Deadworm, I thank you for your words and presence on this forum. It denotes logical separateness rather than temporal sequence. What happens if the Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with man? . This meaning fits the definition of time and is a natural meaning of this verse. “We are saved by grace according to all we can do”—even if this fit, it still would contradict Robinson’s interpretation. 2 Nephi 25:23-26. For instance, twelfth President Spencer W. Kimball introduced 2 Nephi 25:23 by writing this: One passage in the Book of Mormon, written perhaps with the same intent as Paul’s statement above—to stress and induce appreciate for the gracious gift of salvation offered on condition of obedience—is particularly enlightening (The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 207. This word often precedes a sentence, as a governing preposition. Its walls were, for height and width, one of the wonders of the world. In this paper, I offer a theological interpretation of 2 Nephi 25:23 that is distinct from any other in the relevant literature. Robinson is correct that “none of us actually does all he can do.” This seems to be the crux of the matter and the reason why he wishes to change the meaning of the word “after.” When commentators have a doubt about the way a biblical verse ought to be understood, the original Greek and Hebrew can be studied to determine a passage’s meaning. [Arthur A. Bailey, "What Modern Revelation Teaches About Adam," in The Ensign, January 1998, pp. Reading the Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Lesson 9 reminded me of a talk I gave back when I was in high school. But redemption from individual sins depends upon individual effort, with each being judged according to his or her works. I was interested in (and happy with) their use of 2 Ne. I recently asked an Evangelical, “how is one saved?” he replied, “through grace.” When I inquired what that meant, he further explained that when you accept Christ and repent, you are saved by grace. Many people think they need only confess that Jesus is the Christ and then they are saved by grace alone. A-A; A+; 2 Ne 22 though thou wast angry with me thine anger is turned away. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Combine that truth with the love we feel for our children, our parents, our siblings, cousins, nieces, nephews, and many other people, and we have a powerful motivation to testify more frequently and in more different venues. LDS 2 Nephi 25:23 Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by Hammster, Aug 2, 2016. For example, the ordinance of baptism is given us for the remission of sins, for entrance into the kingdom–a new birth; the gift of the Holy Ghost gives us the right to companionship with one of the Godhead; administration to the sick qualified the individual with faith for a special blessing; by paying our tithing, the windows of heaven may be opened unto us; by fasting and by praying our fast offerings, we are told that then we might call on the Lord and He will hear our cry and our call; celestial marriage promises us that family life will exist beyond the grave. After quoting thirteen consecutive chapters of Isaiah's writings in 2 Nephi 12-24 (Isaiah 2-14), Nephi begins to prophesy "in plainness." 2 Nephi 23:19-23 Babylon . “Thus, the correct sense of ”2 Ne. In his book Are Mormons Christians? In my opinion, Verse 23 is best read in light of the entire chapter rather than quoted by itself in isolation. And I agree with the same conclusion. 20-27 2 Nephi 2:24 All Things Have Been Done in the Wisdom of Him Who Knoweth All Things. Exaltation only occurs when a person has “obedience to gospel law.” The ancient prophets of this western continent have clearly set forth in understandable language the obligation of each individual to obtain the highest of these eternal privileges in mortality and in the world to come, for here we find written: ‘For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ . Nephi uses these chapters to explain some of the words of Isaiah that he included in the previous chapters. Nephi glories in plainness—Isaiah’s prophecies will be understood in the last days—The Jews will return from Babylon, crucify the Messiah, and be scattered and scourged—They will be restored when they believe in the Messiah—He will first come six hundred years after Lehi left Jerusalem—The Nephites keep the law of Moses and believe in Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel. Based on what Burton said, the phrase “after all we can do” as described in 2 Nephi 25:23 is a direct reference to “individual salvation,” also known as exaltation, eternal life, and godhood. This meaning is apparent from the fact that none of us actually does all he can do (p. 125). But what Nephi is actually writing here is a very Pauline-like statement to his children and brethren that even after all they can do under the law of Moses, which they must … When it comes to support of “preposition of time,” the second definition seems to fit. Spencer raises five excellent questions from the reading of 2 Nephi 25:23 that highlight the verse’s ambiguities and, consequently, its difficulty for interpretation. Another general authority, Seventy Theodore M. Burton, cited 2 Nephi 25:23 and explained. This additional salvation is an individual salvation and is conditioned not only upon grace, but also upon obedience to gospel law (“Salvation and Exaltation,” Ensign, July 1972, p. 78). The name Jacob is explained as "supplanter" in the King James Bible of Genesis 27:36 (compare Genesis 25:23-26), but could just as easily be read "successor" or "replacement," since Jacob replaced Esau as firstborn and received the birthright and the blessing (see Genesis 25:29-34; 27:22-40). In his book Believing Christ, Robinson explained: I understand the preposition “after” in 2 Nephi 25:23 to be a preposition of separation rather than a preposition of time. Those are the best examples I could find that MIGHT fit the word “after”…but they don’t. “We are saved by grace behind in place after all we can do”—this doesn’t fit. Nephi’s statement “it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23) has been the source of much discussion among Latter-day Saints. Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged 2 Nephi 25:23 vs. Ephesians 2:8-9, bible, Book of Mormon, false doctrines, false prophets, Jesus, mormonism, Salvation by grace or works on 02/04/2012| Leave a Comment » Salvation by What? LDS 2 Nephi 25:23 Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by Hammster, Aug 2, 2016. (2 Nephi 25:23–24, 26, 29) This sure knowledge of Christ, had by the Lehites, was tied to the bedrock of the personal testimonies of at least four prophets who had actually seen the Savior. To follow after in scripture, is to pursue, or imitate; to serve, or worship. All the pain and travail of previous generations will be turned to joy. Two theological interpretations, one traditional and one revisionist, are widespread. ☼ 2 Nephi 25:23: For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. Brackets in original). The use of 2 Nephi 25:23 as raw material for theological reflection about the relationship between grace and works creates no end of trouble for Mormons, although many of us seem unaware of the difficulties. For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.2 … “ULTIMATE SALVATION COMES TO THOSE WHO OBEY. In traditional Mormonism, grace is provided to all humanity because of obedience accomplished in Mormonism’s preexistence (i.e., all human chose Jesus rather than Lucifer to be the savior of the world). In a first section, I highlight a number of ambiguities in Nephi's words that have not been sufficiently noted. "All that we could do [was to] repent of all our sins Romans 8:1. According to the English dictionary contemporary with Joseph Smith and the production of the Book of Mormon, the meaning of “after” as a preposition has the following meanings: After I have arisen, I will go before you into Galilee. « Previous 2 Nephi 25 Next » . It denotes logical separateness rather than temporal sequence. Adam Fell: ☼ 2 Nephi 25:21–22: Wherefore, for this cause hath the Lord God promised unto me that these things which I write shall be kept and preserved, and handed down unto my seed, from generation to generation, that the promise may be fulfilled unto Joseph, that his seed should never perish as long as the earth should stand. (2 Nephi 25:23) !” I asked if he could recite it for me and he had trouble. As we talked, I referenced 2 Nephi 25:23. 2 Nephi Chapter 25 « Previous Next » ... 2 Ne 25:23-30 . Furthermore, we are invited to ‘come unto Christ, and be perfected in him.’ When we deny ourselves ‘of all ungodliness,’ then and only ‘then is his grace sufficient’ for us (Moroni 10:32)” (“Plain and Precious Truths Restored,” Ensign, October 2006, p. 53. To inquire after is to seek by asking; to ask concerning. Behind in place; as, men placed in a line one after another. As Pres. Hey Friends! (25) 2 Nephi 25:23 – A comment. The House of Israel will be redeemed in the Millenial day. It is a fabulous sermon. In pursuit of, that is, moving behind, following; in search of. 2 Nephi 25:23 “For we labor d iligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” He further explains the future of the Jews as well as the restoration of the gospel in the last days. Ye shall not go after other Gods. But a certain amount of works (i.e., the best we have to offer) are necessary to trigger God’s grace and mercy. After whom is the king of Israel come out? The Lord will bless us to the degree to which we keep His commandments. According to Reynolds and Sjodahl, Babylon was one of the great cities of the ancient world, perhaps the greatest. 2 Nephi 25:23 in the Book of Mormon states: “it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” Many Mormons say this verse doesn’t teach that salvation is based on grace and works. Esau was unfit to serve as firstborn. By his grace, we live and breathe. 2 Nephi 31:17-21. 2 Nephi 25:23-30 The Purpose of the Law of Moses. “After all we can do” includes loving our fellowmen and praying for those who regard us as their adversary. According to Nephi, are we saved by grace or by works? Doesn’t the book of James say that “faith without works is dead”? According to Reynolds and Sjodahl, Babylon was one of the great cities of the ancient world, perhaps the greatest. Some of the ways they try to explain away its clear message can only be described as bizarre. The House of Israel will be redeemed in the Millenial day. 1. I served on the Seminary Council and one of my assignments was to speak in Sacrament Meeting. 25:23 at the end. 2 NEPHI 25:21 – 26:11 MESSAGE TO THE CHILRDEN OF LEHI 25:22 the nations who shall possess them shall be judged . Then I gave him a hint. He cites from Ephesians that salvation is a “gift of God: not of works,” yet he still says “we will never deserve more than we receive.” Works “alone” can’t save us, he says, as “grace is an absolute prerequisite.” So, in other words, it is not by grace alone but grace and works (“saved by grace after all we can do”). In the Old and New Testaments most of the people of Israel failed to understand and properly observe the law of Moses, which had been given to help them learn about Christ and come unto Him. Read the verses* 300. The knowlege of the Messiah will be preserved. Don’t you let anyone try to persuade you to any other doctrine than that. He cites 2 Nephi 25:23 as support for his assessment, but also 1 Nephi 13:40, in which the angel who asks Nephi, “Knowest thou the condescension of God?” (1 Nephi 11:16), repudiates the notion of a shared responsibility for salvation. “The simple essence of all you need to know about the Atonement is to be found in the teachings of the great prophet Nephi when he said, ‘We labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do’ (2 Nephi 25:23). Isaiah 11:3. We tend to focus on the last phrase “after all we can do” as the important part of this verse. All the pain and travail of previous generations will be turned to joy. I love 2 Nephi 25:23- 'That it is by Grace that we are saved'- such a great lesson for this week! Dieter F. Uchtdorf said: I wonder if sometimes we misinterpret the phrase “after all we can do.” We must understand that “after” does not equal “because.” While Robinson and other Latter-day Saints might like the idea that they are “saved by grace” “in spite of” all they can do, this has not been the view of LDS leaders throughout the history of the church. Read v. 20 . — 2 Nephi 25:23. (25) 2 Nephi 25:23 – A comment. Thoughts? Apostle Boyd K. Packer agreed with “after” as referencing a preposition of time, saying, “Even that grace of God promised in the scriptures comes only ‘after all we can do’” (“The Brilliant Morning of Forgiveness,” Ensign, November 1995 (Conference Edition), p. 19). Thus works alone cannot save us; grace is an absolute prerequisite. If the verse said “…we are saved by grace EVEN AFTER all we can do,” we’d have something to talk about. See quote from President Ezra Taft Benson, Institute Manual, 94. “We are saved by grace in pursuit of all we can do”—this doesn’t fit. Shall Be As When God Overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah: In 2 Nephi 23:19-22 we find a prophecy of the destruction of Babylon. The sense is that apart from all we can do, it is ultimately by the grace of Christ that we are saved. Thirteenth President Ezra Taft Benson explained his interpretation of “after all we can do” when he said. (2 Nephi 25:23) 4. According to the direction and influence of. Imagine you are an Israelite living during the time of Moses and the poisonous snakes. Cited in The Teachings of Harold B. Lee, pp. The Lord will not again forsake his people. It may be regarded as the ‘Mormon’ contribution to views of the Atonement of Christ, for it is to be found no where else except in Mormon literature.’ The perfect relationship between the atoning grace of Christ and the obedient efforts of mankind is powerfully stated by Nephi: ‘We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do’ (2 Nephi 25:23). “We are saved by grace…” I started. The B of M teaches ‘For we labor diligently to write to persuade our children, and also our brethren to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace we are saved after all we can do’ (2 Nephi 25:23). “We are saved by grace in imitation of all we can do”—this doesn’t fit. In other words, each must do all he can to save himself form sin; then he may lay claim to the blessings of redemption by the Holy One of Israel, that all mankind may be saved by obedience to the law and ordinances of the gospel. “THE LORD BLESSES US TO THE DEGREE WE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. That was also the spirit of Paul’s message: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). The question we must ask is what did Joseph Smith, the “translator” of the Book of Mormon, mean when he wrote the word “after” in this verse? “We’re saved by grace in spite of all we can do,” he responded. 2 Nephi 10:24 reaches the exact same conclusion as I do, and is basically a more clear expression of what 2 Nephi 25:23 means: That's the long and the short of it right there. Roberts of the Seventy (1857-1933) explained how the unconditional nature of the Atonement in regard to Adam’s transgression and its conditional nature regarding men’s personal sins is a doctrine ‘peculiar to ‘Mormonism’…and is derived almost wholly from the teachings of the Book of Mormon. The way too simple / easy and represents Jesus Christ. At first glance this passage seems to agree with 2 Nephi 25:23, but one of the basic principles of biblical hermeneutics (the interpretation of scripture) is that scripture within the Bible (and in LDS theology and scriptures, if it is true) cannot contradict itself. The scriptures make it clear that while a resurrection will come to all, only those who obey the Christ will receive the expanded blessing of eternal salvation” (Harold B. Lee, “To Ease the Aching Heart,” Ensign, April 1973, p. 5. Annotation for 2 Ne 25:23-30 above 30 And, inasmuch as it shall be expedient, ye must keep the performances and ordinances of God until the law shall be fulfilled which was given unto Moses. Later in time; as, after supper. Confusing words. At a recent church meeting where I spoke about The Miracle of Forgiveness evangelistic approach described in a chapter found in Sharing the Good News with Mormons (Kregel, 2018), two young male LDS missionaries approached my table and we began to talk. “When you think about it, there is so much promised in the gospel for so little required on our part. Doctrine and Covenants / Pearl of Great Price, Mormon Objections to Christian Evangelism, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church. In a later general conference talk, Lee also said, “Truly we are redeemed by the atoning blood of the Savior of the world, but only after each has done all he can to work out his own salvation” (Conference Reports, October 1970, p. 116). Book Review: The Divine Gift of Forgiveness by Apostle Neil L. Andersen. For the other five definitions, let’s see how that might work for 2 Nephi 25:23: No example can be found in the 1828 dictionary to support the idea that “after” could mean “apart from all we can do,” “all we can do notwithstanding,” “regardless of all we can do,” or “in spite of all we can do.” Thus, it is highly unlikely that any reader in Smith’s day could have understood this verse to mean anything other than a person is saved by grace after (“later in time”) all they can do. (2 Nephi 25:23–24, 26, 29) This sure knowledge of Christ, had by the Lehites, was tied to the bedrock of the personal testimonies of at least four prophets who had actually seen the Savior. We cannot be saved by grace alone, “for we know that it is by grace that we are saved after all we can do” (Ensign (Conference Edition), November 2001, p. 18). “Believe in Christ and to Be Reconciled to God”, “For We Know That It Is by Grace That We Are Saved”, “We Know That It Is by Grace That We Are Saved”, It is by Grace That We Are Saved, After All We Can Do, “For We Know That It Is by Grace That We Are Saved After All We Can Do”, “It Is by Grace That We Are Saved After All We Can Do”, “It is by Grace That We Are Saved After All We Can Do”. 2 Nephi 23:19-23 Babylon . He cites 2 Nephi 25:23 as support for his assessment, but also 1 Nephi 13:40, in which the angel who asks Nephi, “Knowest thou the condescension of God?” (1 Nephi 11:16), repudiates the notion of a shared responsibility for salvation. BYU Professor Stephen Robinson explained, “At first glance at this scripture, we might think that grace is offered to us only chronologically after we have completed doing all we can do, but this is demonstrably false.” It is ironic that 2 Nephi 25:23 has often been used as ammunition by “grace only” believers who feel that the Book of Mormon somehow lessens or denies grace because it requires followers to do all the works they can do before grace can save. I love 2 Nephi 25:23- 'That it is by Grace that we are saved'- such a great lesson for this week! He looked at me and smiled. No matter how hard we work, how diligently we serve, or how righteously we live, we will never deserve more than we receive (p. 311). According to; as, consider a thing after its intrinsic value. His explanation includes prophecies about his own posterity that will be fulfilled when Jesus appears to the Nephites in the book of 3 Nephi. What is meant by “after all we can do”? To request a free subscription, please visit here. Deuteronomy 6:14. (Harold B. Lee, Stand Ye in Holy Places: Selected Sermons and Writings of President Harold B. Lee, pp. “After all we can do” includes living His commandments. Emphasis mine). Read the verses* 300. 2 Nephi 25:23-26. “Salvation and eternal life would not be possible if it were not for the Atonement, brought about by our Savior, to whom we owe everything. James Faust, who served as a member of the First Presidency, was also quite clear in his interpretation of the phrase when he told a General Conference audience. Here is what she told me: After taking a college and graduate level grammar course, I’ll admit I had to google “preposition of separation,” but after reading up on it, I don’t think it means what he thinks it means. 2. Ellipsis in original). Grace is not merely a decorative touch or a finishing bit of trim to top off our own efforts—it is God’s participation in the process of our salvation from its beginning to … As we continue to study Nephi and Isaiah this week- there are several excellent topics for lessons. It is not. Exaltation only occurs when a person has “obedience to gospel law.”. Its walls were, for height and width, one of the wonders of the world. For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. To judge after the sight of the eye. . (2 Nephi 25:17) 3. May 4, 2020 23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. Regardless of the opinion given by Robinson, there are two important reasons why “after all we can do” should be understood as a preposition of time. Many Mormons (like the missionary described at the beginning of this article) may want to soften the stringent requirements demanded by the teachings of their scriptures and leaders. Nephi . However, 2 Nephi 25:23 offers no support for the belief that a person is saved by grace “in spite of” one’s maximum effort. Unfortunately, the gold plates supposedly containing the Book of Mormon’s writings were said to be taken back by the angel Moroni, so it’s impossible to know the structure of the original “reformed Egyptian.” Thus, we are forced to make a judgment based on the English word “after” because this is all we have. Perhaps he means “preposition of contrast/concession,” which includes words like “in spite of” and “despite.” An example of a preposition of separation would be “from” or “off.” I don’t think that’s what he really means. 2 Nephi 22. 2 Nephi 25:23–24, 27. “After all we can do” means leading chaste, clean, pure lives, being scrupulously honest in all our dealings and treating others the way we would want to be treated (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 354. 2 Nephi 25:23, of course, contains the famous verbal formula, “we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” Latter-day Saints of varying theological stripes frequently treat this formulation as providing a resolution of debates regarding grace and works, although the resolution they see the text as pointing toward varies. There are several excellent topics for lessons future of the gospel for so little required our...: the Divine Gift of Forgiveness by Apostle Neil L. 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