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We've also never heard of another Dumbledore sibling until now, which is weird when you consider that someone, somewhere, with all the wizarding powers in the world, could have sleuthed that skeleton out of the world renown Dumbledore family closet. The film´s producer said Credence will come back as a major player, and will have significantly bigger role in the following movies than Newt Scamander Hence fawkes being there for credence, fawkes recognizes part of credence as being a Dumbledore and needing the most amount of protection. The ship's voyage was in 1901 and so the wiki is now saying that is probably when he was born. The dude is obviously lying and he is not his brother. In the film, it is said that Grindelwald and Dumbledore cannot fight each other because of their blood pact. That’s literally where Fantastic Beasts 2 ends, and you may have some questions. This doesn't make sense. Okay, but then, does he just pull the name Aurelius out of his ass? Can someone explain how credence can be Dumbledore’s brother?? Credence can be a true Dumbledore brother, or literally anyone’s child; anything is possible. Creedance is the son of Albus, who did not know he fathered a son. There is also Is he Leta's brother? Simply, apparently no. I will be really disappointed otherwise. The ship later sank during a storm and Credence was taken by Leta and Irma Dugard to a lifeboat. 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Either way, I absolutely agree that Rowling is nowhere near as clever as she thinks she is, and whatever she pulls in Fantastic Beasts 3 will probably be too much of a stretch. percival was sent to azkaban where he then died in 1890, kendra died in 1889 and credence wasn’t born until 1901. Ehh, I don’t think she’s a sloppy writer, she just shouldn’t write screenplays. 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Even the sister (who I think is the mother) would be 15-16 years older than Credence, an age gap that large is more unusual than a teen pregnancy in my opinion. It's weird, everyone's instant thought was that he was a brother, it wasn't mine at all, he looks WAY too young to be a brother. The big secret that Rowling has been sitting on for all these years, Ariana is an Obscurial. Credence's earliest year of birth (as listed on the wiki) is 1899, and Kendra was killed in the summer of that same year. There's so many issues with this movie, I still love it but if it was pushed back 6 months maybe it wouldn't be so flawed. Once Dumbledore and Aberforth headed to … Grindlewald tells Credence that phoenixes always appear to a Dumbledore in their time of need, because HE IS DUMBLEDORE’S BROTHER. Once there, Grindelwald reveals Credence’s true identity to him: He is Aurelius Dumbledore, Albus Dumbledore’s brother. Perhaps so, and Albus is just keeping it in, waiting for the right time. I agree though, the reveal on who Creedance really is, is going to be rather lackluster. I seriously doubt Percival would have remarried - everything he did, he did for the safety of his family, and he could have easily told the truth about Ariana's situation and gotten a reduced sentence. They don't just casually mention Dumbledore's sister's death while also talking about how close Grindelwald and Dumbledore are if they're not going to explore that duel that separated them and what happened. So when Grindelwald Anyway, I don't want to go into who the father might be as it will all be explained in the sequel but this is my theory on how it's going to play out. He is not dead, as a wisp of his Obscurial apparently survived. Grindelwald cannot possibly know that the pact-vial was given to Albus. I watched it today and my theory is that he is her son. SIGH From the Harry Potter wiki - “At the age of six, Ariana was attacked by Muggle boys who saw her practising magic, which left her traumatised to the point of rendering her magical abilities uncontrollable.” Agreed actually, it seems so obvious considering how grindelwald manipulated evened in the movie, This is what I thought watching the film, but I’ve grown to fancy the idea that Ariana’s obscurity resides in Credence, I keep going back to the idea that Grindelwald believes._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Welcome to /r/FanTheories! .Rd5g7JmL4Fdk-aZi1-U_V{transition:all .1s linear 0s}._2TMXtA984ePtHXMkOpHNQm{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:4px}.CneW1mCG4WJXxJbZl5tzH{border-top:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-line);margin-top:16px;padding-top:16px}._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{transition:all .1s linear 0s;display:none;fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:middle;margin-bottom:2px;margin-left:4px;cursor:pointer}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover ._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{display:inline-block}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs{border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B.IeceazVNz_gGZfKXub0ak,._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk{margin-top:25px;left:-9px}._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:focus-within,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:hover{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border:none;padding:8px 8px 0}._25yWxLGH4C6j26OKFx8kD5{display:inline}._2YsVWIEj0doZMxreeY6iDG{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;padding:4px 6px}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);margin-right:8px;margin-left:auto;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-errorText)}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg,._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{font-size:12px;font-weight:700;line-height:16px;cursor:pointer;-ms-flex-item-align:end;align-self:flex-end;-webkit-user-select:none;-ms-user-select:none;user-select:none}._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq{font-weight:700;color:#ff4500;text-transform:uppercase;margin-right:4px}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq,.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-weight:400;-ms-flex-preferred-size:100%;flex-basis:100%;margin-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX{margin-top:6px}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._3MAHaXXXXi9Xrmc_oMPTdP{margin-top:4px} Percival was sent to She’s built for novels, and by Crimes of Grindelwald, you could tell it was a very novel-like plot. 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