(Intimidate)” Of course only to betray him and usurp his power. — Your right, Paarthunax needs to die for his crimes. I think the beth are not to blame. A christian example (Opposite change, same idea) would be Satan, once a good Angel, now…well ya know. Search for Paarthurnax at http://www.skyrimnexus.com. I just ran across this line from Delphine “the Blades are sworn to protect the dragonborn, the greatest dragonslayer of all”…. I can’t kill the Blades (as much as i would like to. remove all checks for opposing faction, probably easiest. Another thing that’s silly with the Blades’ request is that they have not yet solved the dragon problem at large and they’re cutting you off if you don’t kill Paarthurnax right then? As I figure, Im the dragonborn. I should have let the Thalmor kill them instead of bringing the Thalmor after me (I really hate them too). I think Bethesda should have given a few more moral/ethical decisions to make. or looking at it another way And the idea "he is too powerful and might cross us again" is stupid, when you start killing people just because they might fight you one day, you are the typical evil villain. How come you serve the order of the blades so faithfully as dragon slayers, when your lord Tiber Septim himself was friends and trained by the very same dragon, Paarthurnax?”. A chance to properly play our characters alignment. And used console commands to finish the potion bit. Hi! And what Odahving said about Paarthurnax’s way of the voice being a tyranny is nothing more than an opinion, with no evidence to support it. and honour the Blades whom you serve. Come on.. that would be perfect for a DLC. Then at the end of the game he disappears and now its IMPOSSIBLE for me to kill him and the Blades keep telling me that I need to. If you don't kill Paarthurnax you don't need to kill Esbern and Delphine. It was the major storyline quest for dragon born happen. I do what I believe is right. Haha some of the replies on here are hilarious “i fus ro dah’d that old c#nt off the cliff” its a shame I wont ever be joining the blades, as soon as she said kill him I left. He’s giving them a choice. I choose Iron because I did not see them as worthy of anything more expensive. I don’t think Paarthurnax is that stupid to even consider about dominating the world. What a dilemma. attitude and methods. eventually be able to have your followers join the order and take them to Dragonhunts. Oh and The Blades hate The Thalmor, I think Blades is the logical side, and Empire too. >:p. @coldarkstare My conversation with Paarthurnax was without a doubt one of the most enlightening in the entire game. It worked fine on Delphine, got nice finishing move on her and tossing her down Activate or add the Fire Breath Shout to your favourites. They deserve it. Got Esbern’s (albiet bugged) potion. I’m at this quest right now and if I just use the console to kill the quest NPC’s wouldn’t leave the quest forever unfinished? Plus, while Alduin was trapped in time, Paarthurnax could have easily taken over from him, but no, he didn’t, he flew around The throat of the world for years. 5. I decided to reward the dragon with a trip to heaven. Heh heh. The akavari come from dragon land to the east of tamirel and they cut through killing the regenade dragons from their own land so buy killing Parthanaxx you are helping the blades to for fill their mission started in the first era. I’d click the s**t out of that persuade option. If they refuse, I challenge them to a fair and just battle and defeat them in an honorable sword-to-sword combat. ): LIKE A BOSS, I recomend this mod. Later, I suppose due to lack of dragons, they evolved into an order of spies and commandos in service of the Emperor of Tamriel but lost their role as protectors. As with DB (Cicero), who left those two jokers in charge?! So what I did was, When I first got the objective from Esbern. Delphine has been a major annoyance for me since the moment she’d barged in on my questline. Including telling you *exactly* how to learn Dragonrend, which the Blades barely knew anything of. “Some people are so dry that you might soak them in a joke for a month and it would not get through their skins.” – Henry Ward Beecher. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature.”. Kill Esbern, steal his soul and beat Delphine with it! Are you so guiltless as to stand in judgement upon Paarthurnax? But to quote a very great man: The Bard They’ re just as much to blame for the Oblivion Crisis as the Mythic Dawn. . -Then during the quest, give them a second chance to reconsider their resolve. Morrowind: Nothing, pretty much keep secrets and that sort of thing. On this page of the guide for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim we present the walkthrough for the quest Paarthurnax.This is an optional quest, which is closely related to the main storyline. Thalmor want to enslave all Tamriel and you can be tool for Thalmor or not. i have a question, would it be that sky haven temple will be accesible even though you did not kill paarthy?…..and i so don’t really like being told around by the blades…hmpf…blademasters without sense of sympathy for those who’ve repented their sins……i dare say i’ll cut them where they stand with my razor.. @Bane of Righteous They send you on missions to kill dragons. I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the Way of the Voice. The ONLY reason people kill Paarthurnax in this game is because they suck up to Delphine and the Blades, and they've figured out some lame way to rationalize it (with off-point analogies or whatever eases their conscience). I was thinking, with Paarthurnax having a vague tone regarding “No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. The Throat of the World: Receive a lesson from Paarthurnax. By the time of Skyrim events Esbern and Delphine are all that is left of the order. its so fucking stupid that you cant kill them but you can kill paarthurnax. In my opinion, they showed nothing more than arrogance and bossiness toward the Dragonborn, why the heck would he reasonably snuff out the life of a dragon who proved to be a good guy and, more importantly, more helpful than they were? why cant you write down parthurnax’s code, finish the quest, then resurrect him? Then i made Daedric armor, Daedric helmet, Daedric gauntlets, and Daedric boots, with the souls of Arngeir, Borri, Einiarth, and Wulfgar. At least SHE remains loyal to me. He did what had to be done, but was still sad that Alduin had to die. You could sell the blades on paarthunaax’s death if your speech craft is high enough. While In sneak mode, I then watched Delphine and Esbern beat the undead recruits then made a quiet exit to leave them back at square 1 with just those two making up the blades with absolutely nothing at their disposal, book, weapon, armor (except what was on their back) wise. There’s no excuse now that Alduin is dead. I noticed the first time I played Oblivion that the Blades are a bunch of pompous assholes. I choose to go with Paarthurnax, mostly because the arrogance of the Blades was beyond my ability to take. Either response the Dragonborn gives leads to Arngeir asking for forgivess for being intemperate. If you have not brought three people to the Blades already, Delphine’s recruitment quest will remain uncompleted. <3, Hey, there is a mod nowon the Nexus that allows to talk them out of it or kill them or just lie. !Spoiler Alert!!) Sorry for my English, was using it last time around 20 years ago . Actually, I think Odahviing (I think I spelled that correctly) thought of the way of the voice as tyranny because he was a little like Alduin in his thinking. Killing the Bastard Blades (aka B.B. We can’t afford to give Paarturnax the opportunity to betray us in turn, and return to his old master. I prefer to keep alive a dragon who helped me through my quest line instead of 2 A@@holes who used me for the entire quest line. You feel it in yourself, do you not? ALL those that refuse to kill Paarthurnax are weak and should perish MUAAAAHAHAHHA ! Also, didn’t you hear Paarthurnax’s little speech at the end about how Alduin was his brother and that the world will never be the same for him? and then go against the Leader of your species? If there’s still one quest left I,haven’t beat the game yet…, OH I so like this alternative better. Paarthurnax did not lie to us while they did. Ma Personnage They returned to their original goal and approach the Dragonborn offering guidance and support. They found out that a long time ago that Paarthurnax was once an ally of Alduin. Then just to add salt to the wound, I reanimated (using spell) the three recruits and had them attack both Delphine and Esbern while I aptly ransacked Sky Haven Temple for useful bits I could find. Else one could think that the hunger for power is strong within you. Arngeir also has some things to say about the Blades and their desire to kill Paarthurnax: Dragonborn: I need to learn the shout used to defeat Alduin. I think I know the reason why the Blades so desperately want to kill Paarthurnax. “There are those that say the Blades still exist around us, in hiding from the Thalmor. So I don’t see how it’s an obvious choice. But newer the less this is one the many flaws of the story line in Skyrim. What really pisses me off is the fact that I did all the work clearing out Sky Haven Temple (yah, I guess it was originally theirs, like thousands of years ago) then they have the gall to tell me to get out since I refused to kill the dragon. >:( It’s easy to order someone else to go and kill someone you’ve never met or spoken to before. The choice between killing Paathunax and letting him live was something I think we should concider ourselves lucky to have gotten. In fact I think you are taking the post too seriously, there is clearly a smiley at the end of the sentence. He was evil once, but that changed. Now I’m looking at mods to finish the story I have created in my head. How do we do that? Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). And who gives a giggity if he turns evil, he’ll be some other Dragonborn’s problem, maybe even another universe’s, just not mine. step 3. laugh and enjoy @tb0067 Skyrim is a near perfect game for me, but this quest is just sitting in my inbox, unfinished, because I’m playing on the PS3 and can’t work around it. @Rowan The blades are amazing. but i have a better solution As far as i’m concerned? But I can live with delphine and esbern dead. Omw to teach them a thing or two about the power of the voice and the dragon kin. You can recruit 3 members into the Blades (Which you can still order to follow you around as a follower) and then get the bugged "Esbern's Potion". Never having to kill a single dragon. Having found some books about the blades i realized that the Blades just want dragons gone, doesn’t matter who the dragon is or how he lived his life, all must be gone. How can they if they don’t guard/kill Emperors or have a super secret spy club and are useless? I smile every time they do, knowing that my sacrifice of Delphine has appeased them. I am glad she is gone and I have two Iron Daggers named Esbern and Delphine that I stuck on the weapon rack in Sky Haven Temple. Haha, nice to read that I am not the only one feeling this way! Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a7bfd00e8ce2a57555fb7e95bb966ded" );document.getElementById("b8e6bd3510").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Copyright © 1998-2017. She’ll flat-out say “Paarthurnax bad, you gotta kill him, and we’re gonna be mean to you until you do.” -Next, get all the possible perks I can from Delphine and Esbern Emrys aren’t you a littelbit hypocritical with your answer to Zomby? Nov 30, 2014 - Explore Clyyyde's board "Paarthurnax" on Pinterest. And, it is quite easy to see why he wants his own brother overthrown, and why he helped you defeat Alduin, because at the fight at the throat of the world, if you wear dragonplate or dragonscale armour, Alduin will say “The Dovah are weak!” meaning Alduin might of hated his own kind. Blades – Graybeards. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. The will to power is in our blood. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); For me this is the hardest decision so far. Paarthy forever! snip .] ;D, Ironic, when you consider the fact that you have two dragons at your disposal…. With both Alduin and Paarthurnax dead, a dark chapter in history will finally be closed. So, between the Blades and Paarthurnax, Paarthurnax gets far more points for helpfulness than the Blades. Not like he was active during the time Alduin and the other dragons were gone. That means if he succeeds, dragons will become ally of human. » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:11 pm It should also not have been depicted as an apparently black & white situation based on the moral absolutes of a D & D alignment system which I wish would just die . This sums up my thoughts on the blades! What I would suggest i that you find all the shouts by using the Greybeards and then join the blades. Wait for construction kit, should be VERY soon, and mod it so there are more options. On PC it is possible to complete this quest without killing Paarthurnax by using the console command setstage MQPaarthurnax 100. Don’t misunderstand, the Grey Beards are douches too. Don't kill him and have the greybeards keep trusting you. Fuck those blades. I know it’s my choice to kill paarthurnax or not . Here’s the big picture. You can go there if you do not kill Paarthurnax, The Blades just won’t talk to you. after all, the description of dragons as being cruel and power hungry by nature isn’t that different from any animal… or humans for that matter… why cant they get salvation as well? The same moment you type in a comand in the console of the game no matter what, you are making your own rules and change the Game in mechanics and options. Never paid much attention to the politics myself, it is just that I hate being pushed around by the Blades. Besides would you kill your martial art master who teached everything he knew just because he was an ex-convict? Paarthurnax or Blades? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=75915978, the very first time esbern asked me to kill paarthurnax we were in the courtyard out back so i fus ro dah’d that old c#nt off the cliff, i think they know where i stand on the subject lol. If there is tell me the steps on doing it before I complete the main quest. @dragonslayer22 And yes if it turns out to be a problem, then we can still take action. like the nazi Stormcloaks, not to mention the totalitarian Imperials. It is nice to see that I was not the only person who thinks that way and I have to chuckle at some of the great ideas players describe here. It was he who first taught men to use the Thu’um. I think Paarthurnax deserves a second chance. Who did you side with ?The story behind Paarthurnax reminds me Anakin Skywalker at the end of Star Wars Episode VI. At first, this site is about role playing games, of course it won’t matter outside the game. Send you to fight the Thalmor in the middle of the Thalmor embassy, and not coming with you. setstage mqpaarthurnax 100 Is there a way to continue the blades quest without killing Paarthurnax? @Sam Paarthurnax was the author of many atrocities during the Dragon War – crimes great enough to be remembered for thousands fo years. The Fallen: Capture and interrogate an ally of Alduin. Delphine isn't very popular and most people choose not to kill Paarthurnax. I wish Bethesda had added a “Kill the Blades” option to the Paarthurnax quest. Paarthurnax. They do not serve the dragonborn like they say. Yes I misspelled his name, imposting on my phone and the spell checker is on crack. Gaining Reputation with The Blades you will (would – don’t even think about it!) the cliff with Unrelenting Force. What’s more do we know what parthunaxx’s name means so cold it could translate to killer of time. I am so happy that an overwhelming majority feels that Paarthurnax more than deserves to live (at the very least have more right than those a-holes Delphine and Esbern) and I couldn’t have put the reasons any better than what has already been said. 1. Thnx for telling me how to kill the blades. I am not sure which little brat you mean, but you can find all npc-ids here. What pisses me off is the fact that somewhere along the questline we are told by the greybeards that the blades are not what they seem to be. I’m sure everyone has already made their choice by now, but in bethesdas defnce there is a reason the choice did not go two ways. He is a very faithful dragon unlike the blades who decided to refuse to talk with me for no reason. 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